1939 Peugeot 402 B

1939 Peugeot 402 B in Akcja pod Arsenalem, Movie, 1978 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: FR

1939 Peugeot 402 B

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chris40 UK

2007-10-29 17:13

I'm wondering if this is a Peugeot 402 with the headlights moved from behind the grille.

antp BE

2007-10-29 18:21

It looks like that, indeed...

Junkman UK

2007-10-29 23:22

It is. I think I can still read the '402' in the center of the grille. In many countries the Peugeots had to be converted this way, since the lights were too far inboard to be legal. Germany is one of them.

DynaMike NL

2007-10-29 23:57

This grille with "402" in top of it indicates the 1939 402 B. Because of the headlights, it is a "made for Poland".

Weasel1984 PL

2007-10-30 16:54

Not sure if in Poland this type of headlights was forbiden (I've never heard about it):
http://veteran.pl/kra5/kra503.htm
Now, there are some other possibilities: or Peugeot from this movie has some post-war modification or has been left here by Germans. Of course also the one from the link could be individually imported later.

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DynaMike NL

2007-10-30 17:21

Originally, the headlights were forbidden in Holland e.g. But nowadays most Dutch x02 Peugeots just have the original lights behind the grille, since no officials know that these have been forbidden in the thirties...

Weasel1984 PL

2007-10-30 17:34

Anyway that's a really horrible modification which completely kills this car. :D

Ingo DE

2007-10-30 17:38

Ugly as the mutations of European cars for the U.S.-market after 1973 - aaargh!

Ingo DE

2007-10-30 17:41

Weren't there also some Tatra-models (pre- and post-war, I think), which have be changed for export-markets? They lost the third front lamp in the middle.

antp BE

2007-10-30 18:07

Ingo wrote after 1973

A little before too, see the Citroën SM

Ingo DE

2007-10-30 18:43

@antp: to avoid misunderstanding: I meant in my posting above mainly the ugly monster-bumpers, which had to be mounted for the US-market after 1973(?). They destroyed the shape of a car totally, for example at the Audi 100 C1, the BMW 02 series, Mercedes W 115, W 107 and W 116 and many others.

I think, you mean with the SM the -also ugly- sealed beam-lamps, which were duty before 1970. Yes, the US-version of the SM looks ugly with these lamps (wasn't also the chassis liftened up for the US?). The NSU RO 80 in US-version looks also badly. More horror was possible. Have you ever seen photos of the US-version of the Audi Super 90 and the NSU 1200? Waaah!

Weasel1984 PL

2007-10-30 18:51

After the war there were T87 which had 2 (instead of 3) headlights, but it was rather just an alternative version, not designed because of some foreign traffic regulations.

DynaMike NL

2007-10-30 19:19

T87 had always three headlights, like all V8-Tatras until 2-603. The models with only two headlights were T97 or Tatraplans, with a 4-cylinder boxer engine. I recall that there have eben early 603 export models whose front had been converted to four headlights because of local laws, though. BTW there was a similar problem with the Panhard Dyna [Z] (like ours) with the central foglight. Officially it had to be unplugged in Holland.

Weasel1984 PL

2007-10-30 19:29

Sorry I don't agree. To the 1935/36 the T77 had 2 headlights (later replaced by 3 it was a while before the T77a was introduced). And there were also a T87 with 2 headlights, ca 1947.

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Alexander DE

2007-10-30 19:46

There was a 1948 export model of the T87 with only two headlights. It looked almost like the T600.

chris40 UK

2007-10-30 19:55

Weasel1984 wrote Anyway that's a really horrible modification which completely kills this car. :D

I agree. I could have lived with it if the lamps weren't so obviously cheap and nasty :mad: Lamps faired into the wings like a Darl'Mat 402 would have been nice ...


-- Last edit: 2007-10-31 15:56:06

Weasel1984 PL

2015-09-11 16:17

The "made for PL" tag can be removed. For sure 1930s "Polish" Peugeots had the same lamps hidden behind the grille what French cars. We have already other 30s Peugeots from Poland even on this site.

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