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1952 AEC Regal Eastern Coachworks 'Queen Mary' 
Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: 
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◊ 2019-11-21 21:11 |
It’s an ECW Queen Mary, by the looks of it, but not close enough to offer any further speculation. |
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◊ 2019-11-22 20:34 |
Doesn't look like the classic Bristol LWL; more like a Besford SBG. |
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◊ 2019-11-22 20:41 |
^Bedford - 's' and 'd' are rather close on the keyboard. |
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◊ 2019-11-22 21:24 |
http://www.busportal.cz/modules.php?name=print&sid=7576 Scroll down to bottom, this provides a start point. The LWL also appears to have the front axle located well forward. |
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◊ 2019-11-22 22:55 |
/vehicle.php?id=143293&l=de I seem to be surrounding myself with controversy this pm, but I have never heard of a Bedford chassis under a Queen Mary. Having ridden in two owned by a local firm, they were heavyweight bodies on heavyweight chassis. |
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◊ 2019-11-22 23:15 |
That was me interpreting the various comments to the best of my limited ability ... |
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◊ 2019-11-23 13:16 |
As a personal observation the front track looks wider than I would expect for a Bedford SB - regarding both coaches with jfs's comment "I have never heard of a Bedford chassis under a Queen Mary" The Queen Mary coaches above and to a less visible extent here /vehicle.php?id=143293&l=de have front wheels that are almost flush with the body the Bedford's (possibly with a narrower track) have wheels generally more inboard. As I said an observation that could be wrong but it does not suggest a Bedford SB to me. |
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◊ 2019-11-23 16:03 |
This film was made in 1957. I have examined the records of BLOTW from 1946 to 1958 for Eastern Coachworks, and they did not body one single Bedford. The nearest they got to lightweight buses was the London Transport Guy Specials and the various Bristol SC4LK single deckers. https://www.flickr.com/photos/quicksilver_coaches/32461817040 http://www.old-bus-photos.co.uk/?p=6729 I therefore respectfully request the alteration of this record. -- Last edit: 2019-11-24 09:14:49 |
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◊ 2019-11-23 16:45 |
So back to Bristol LWL?? And ECW "Queen Mary"?? |
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◊ 2019-11-23 17:19 |
In the years I referred to above, ECW bodied Bristol (predominantly), Leyland, AEC, Albion, and Daimler Chassis. They also built the Guy Specials, and some referred to as ECW chassisless, which I presume was an attempt to copy Beadle. Link to "www.old-bus-photos.co.uk" -- Last edit: 2019-11-24 08:48:54 |
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◊ 2019-11-23 20:06 |
Link to "commons.m.wikimedia.org" After a great deal of scratching about on t’interweb, I have found a picture of a Queen Mary with roof windows, approximately similar in appearance to the subject vehicle. It is a 1952 AEC Regal, operated by Tilling, and, although the colours don't quite conform, I tentatively offer this as a solution. Reasons: the rooflights are relatively uncommon; Tilling is quite likely to have operated to Heath Row Airport and there were six coaches of this type; no other suggestions, either pertinent to the coach, or as to where I should go, have been received. My knowledge of photography is restricted to pointing my phone at stuff, but I would like to congratulate the photographer of the AEC to which the above link leads, enlarge it on your screens and take a look, it is pin sharp. -- Last edit: 2019-11-23 21:27:21 |
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◊ 2019-11-24 13:32 |
Say something, even if it’s only goodbye! |
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◊ 2019-11-24 14:04 |
I admire your dogged determination jfs... You convince me more than enough to say its highly likely to be the AEC Regal. Also here as the roof lights look the same! /vehicle.php?id=143293&l=de -- Last edit: 2019-11-24 14:04:44 |
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◊ 2019-11-24 14:07 |
Thank you. |
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◊ 2019-11-24 14:13 |
You're welcome, jfs. A pleasant relief from examining Commer Express delivery vans' back ends... |
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◊ 2019-11-24 14:41 |
I suppose we owe a debt to assist those amongst the younger element who cannot tell a hawk from a handsaw unless it’s got a computerised camshaft and a nine speed limited slip sunroof. Equally, I still find myself learning new stuff, especially as I am launching research into an electric or hybrid replacement for the current (ho-ho) vehicle, and would not put the new generation into any boxes, we’re all entitled to our foibles. I greatly enjoyed my last Mercédès, which I kept for six years, this one not so much. They have cut down the size of the fuel tank to about 45 litres, which is annoying, and the latest version of the gearbox is a bit reluctant to stir itself unless you drive it in sport mode, when it becomes a bit manic. The 19 inch wheels with low profile run flats don’t help promote peace and relaxation on our pothole filled roads either. To counteract that, and to create some peace and reflection time in my life, I have also ordered a greenhouse. This will arrive at the end of February, and I need to absorb a deal of information about propagation and nurturing of seedlings, never having been involved before in such things. Enough whingeing. -- Last edit: 2019-11-24 15:11:58 |
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