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◊ 2019-04-01 00:26 |
Voyager Would it not be a Chrysler Voyager. Either way it is a Voyager |
◊ 2019-04-01 00:33 |
should have those tail lights to be an European Voyager badge is at the wrong place... can't really see if Grand and if the door handles are chrome or not.. -- Last edit: 2019-04-01 00:35:31 |
◊ 2019-04-01 00:34 |
Black market import??? |
◊ 2019-04-01 00:37 |
probably.. now we have to find who would want to pay $$ to import one.. will go as 1991 Voyager by default as the bumper is 1991-1993 -- Last edit: 2019-04-01 00:39:53 |
◊ 2019-04-01 00:38 |
It has the European back door (plate space) |
◊ 2019-04-01 00:40 |
EU one fit with US tail lights then ? |
◊ 2019-04-01 00:43 |
the taillights means not much. They easily can be changed, there are also some people, who like them. And it's in Russia, where the regulation about those topics aren't that strict as in the EU. |
◊ 2019-04-01 00:46 |
since it has EU's rear door, better going as Chrysler ( but still unsure about Grand or not, chromed handles or not ) |
◊ 2019-04-01 01:09 |
Since it was no difference between the US Plymouth and the EU Chrysler tail gate (Plymouth had the same big plate holder, like this one) and having US tail light, I would say Plymouth. -- Last edit: 2019-04-01 01:10:11 |
◊ 2019-04-01 01:14 |
So an used US import? Plymouth was never officially sold in Europe (or maybe it was in CH and S?) |
◊ 2019-04-01 01:16 |
Yes, I would say a grey import, like the Stratus. -- Last edit: 2019-04-02 23:37:30 |
◊ 2021-01-25 21:28 |
I think I can confirm the Plymouth. This was filmed in St. Petersburg, and with the badge being on the wrong side, I think it's one in a million: http://img02.avto-nomer.ru/010/o/ru2956667.jpg 1994 by plate. 1994 MY built September 11, 1993 in Dark Quartz Gray Metallic Clearcoat. Canadian car originally sold in Quebec, leased by the American Agricultural Insurance Company. I guess this would make it made for Canada? 1P4GH54R8RX155828 -- Last edit: 2021-01-25 21:32:05 |
◊ 2021-01-25 21:48 |
but i'm still curious about the 1991-1993 rear bumper.. replacement ? |
◊ 2021-01-25 22:02 |
On the main or in the link? |
◊ 2021-01-25 22:03 |
on both it looks like they replaced the chrome strip by another kind but the groove is lower on the 1994-1995 ones http://gtcarlot.com/colors/car/18230402-6.html -- Last edit: 2021-01-25 22:06:26 |
◊ 2021-01-25 22:05 |
I guess so. Anyways, that distinguishes it all the more. A damage report was filed in August 2015 - so around the time this would have been filmed - concerning the front axle and engine, I wonder what that was about?... |
◊ 2021-01-25 22:08 |
Carfax gives it as a 1994 Grand Voyager LE according to VIN unless its becoming a trend to install the badge in wrong locations i'll agree with you that there must be not many with that feature.. -- Last edit: 2021-01-25 22:10:18 |
◊ 2021-01-25 22:12 |
I don't think we need to add that thing about the bumper to extra info. And thank you for that very interesting benchmark! Now we know 1995s have slightly different, more aerodynamic script (note especially the P, M and Y in the Plymouth script) Or was this already known here? -- Last edit: 2021-01-25 22:16:06 |
◊ 2021-01-25 22:14 |
i guess not .. i just wanted to specify so we don't get : " but it has the wrong bumper " .. |
◊ 2021-01-25 22:49 |
looks like the change occured in 1994 http://gtcarlot.com/colors/car/48520525-4.html ( said to be 1994 Caravan pictured , GTCarlot doesn't have a 1994 Voyager ) i didn't knew about the change... or forgot.. yep, 1994 Link to "topclassiccarsforsale.com" -- Last edit: 2021-01-25 22:50:49 |
◊ 2021-01-25 23:32 |
Then it must have been in the latter half of the model year. |