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unknown in Tierra de Reyes, TV Series, 2014-2015 IMDB Ep. 153

Class: Cars, Sedan

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[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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supcoach US

2019-03-17 17:31

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Rolls Royce Silver Cloud Standard Steel Saloon or its Bentley stablemate

supcoach US

2019-03-17 18:42

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@dsl or john from staffs - Was there still wood framing in vehicles produced from RR/Bentley prior to the SC series because of the Standard Steel Saloon in the vehicle's name?

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-03-17 19:33

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Wood framing was principally found in coachbuilt cars, sales of which were reduced to a few by the introduction of steel bodies starting with the Bentley MkVI in 1946, built by Pressed Steel and delivered in the white to Crewe. Royce’s management had decided, in the late 30s, that building chassis only for supply to coachbuilders was a dying trade since economies of scale would not be available.They therefore planned through the years of WW2 to develop a Standard Steel Saloon that could be fitted to the new post war production chassis in the factory at the same time as offering that identical chassis to the specialist coachbuilders. They concentrated on the Bentley car as that was likely to be sold in greater numbers than the more “personal” Royce. They had been moving towards this plan by recommending the Park Ward bodywork as a sort of standard equipment for the pre 1939 Derby built Bentleys.

The only wood in my 1953 Standard Steel R-type is the dashboard, the surround of the sunshine roof, and some bits of trim.

Mk VI - 5208 chassis built 1946 - 52. Pressed Steel Saloons on this chassis 4190 Coachbuilt cars 1018. 19.5% coachbuilt.
R-type - 2323 chassis built 1952 - 55. Pressed Steel Saloons on this chassis 2028 Coachbuilt cars 295. 12.7% coachbuilt.

S1 3072 chassis inc 145 coachbuilt. 4.7% )
S2 1850 chassis inc 15 coachbuilt. <1% ) Built between 1955 and 1965.
S3 1284 chassis inc 2 coachbuilt. Much <1% )

It is clear to see how the proportion of coachbuilt cars reduced to almost nothing over these years.

I have left out Continental models and Long Wheelbase Cars in the figures above, a) because there were relatively few, and b) because they would skew the figures being non-standard, but, including all variants Bentley Motors built 15,207 cars between 1946 and 1965, including 2,828 coachbuilt (of all types) and 12,379 Steel Saloons. That is 81.4% Standard Saloons of the various types.

There are no Rolls-Royces in this analysis but the Silver Dawn is closely allied to the Bentleys referred to above, and I know nothing of the Phantom types, not being quite aristocratic or dictatorial enough. The Silver Wraiths, built in the late 40s/early 50s were all coachbuilt. I cannot help with the Shadow/T-type except to say that as these cars were monocoque construction coachbuilding was restricted to modification to pre-existing Steel saloons, either by decapitation, turning into two door coupés or lengthening.

I can split the BVI/R-type by coachbuilder if required.

The figures have been taken from Bernard King’s books on the MkVI and R-type Bentleys, and a Bentley Drivers Club publication called “Twenty Years of Crewe Bentleys 1946 to 1965”.


-- Last edit: 2019-03-18 11:48:30

supcoach US

2019-03-18 00:17

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@johnfromstaffs. More info then I expected. Thank you. Perhaps you should compose a book as well

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