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Bentley unknown Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin: 
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Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2018-12-26 18:55 |
![[Image: untitled.3531.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/untitled.3531.jpg) ![[Image: untitled.3532.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/untitled.3532.jpg) ![[Image: untitled.3533.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/untitled.3533.jpg) -- Last edit: 2018-12-26 18:58:19 |
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◊ 2018-12-26 18:59 |
![[Image: untitled.3534.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/untitled.3534.jpg) |
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◊ 2018-12-26 19:09 |
it resembles very strongly to a CROSSLY due those tiny doors![[Image: 2litre_sports20_420_seat.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/2litre_sports20_420_seat.jpg) |
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◊ 2018-12-26 20:21 |
Or a Bentley. /vehicle_432503-Bentley-3-Litre-LM1336-1926.html |
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◊ 2018-12-26 20:25 |
Or a Lagonda. /vehicle_28493-Lagonda-2-Litre-1931.html |
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◊ 2018-12-26 20:32 |
Might be easiest for our experts to look at the clues on the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj9Gjh0VxEE |
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◊ 2018-12-26 20:50 |
Or a Vauxhall. /vehicle_258528-Vauxhall-30-98-OE-1924.html |
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◊ 2018-12-26 20:54 |
it looks like Vauxhall wheel !!! and the body which doesn't cover the frame, ![[Image: vauxhall-30-98-5-x3.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/vauxhall-30-98-5-x3.jpg) the only question which model of Vauxhall -- Last edit: 2018-12-26 21:07:00 |
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◊ 2018-12-26 21:02 |
IMO it’s a Cricklewood Bentley with Vanden Plas coachwork. |
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◊ 2018-12-26 21:08 |
this ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Vn-v3d6EY |
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◊ 2018-12-26 21:09 |
Or something similar. http://www.vintagebentleys.org/carpages/yt9152.php |
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◊ 2018-12-26 21:15 |
tried to enhance the front a bit, it does have a logo on top of the radiator![[Image: untitled.3535.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/untitled.3535.jpg) -- Last edit: 2018-12-26 21:15:53 |
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◊ 2018-12-26 21:22 |
The identification of quality cars from this era is very hard to do. Many of the manufacturers supplied only chassis and left the bodywork to the specialist coachbuilders, with the result that details of the chassis technicalities were needed to identify a car as similar looking bodies could turn up on different makes. The Crossley shown has only small front wheel brakes, the Vauxhall has none at all. Large front brakes were needed to match the speed potential of a 4.5 litre Bentley. |
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◊ 2018-12-26 21:24 |
then how about name it after the coachwork ? this happens often even today with buses |
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◊ 2018-12-27 00:42 |
Where I do the identification I always follow a system: - Chassis plus model if appropriate/coachbuilder plus any further name. See /vehicle.php?id=1217070 And for buses /vehicle_354112-Leyland-Royal-Tiger-PSU1-15-1952.html Since I very rarely identify anything built after about 1970, mainly because I don’t know what they are, this system works for me, but with campervans and modern buses the name of the coachbuilder seems to take precedence over the supplier of the oily bits. Where a chassis supplier is listed, in my book it should go first, for instance: - AEC Reliance/Plaxton Paramount. Coachbuilt Cars very rarely occurred in large runs of identical vehicles, although there are some exceptions like, for instance, the Austin Seven/Swallow or the AEC Regent RT/Park Royal. Twenty bodies to the same design would be regarded as unusual, and even then the customer could specify unique interior trim, paint combinations, bumpers, wheeltrims and even stuff like special lighting or gun mounts. Look at some of the Royces built for Indian royalty in the 1920s and you will see how much things could vary. Also, some coachbuilders built very few bodies at all, and to give them precedence over a large or famous chassis supplier would be putting the coach before the horse. -- Last edit: 2018-12-27 08:59:12 |
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◊ 2018-12-27 12:18 |
After a great deal of book searching and detail comparison the following suggestion is made: - 1930 4 1/2 litre Bentley with coachwork by Vanden Plas or modern replica. The date is based on the barely readable "GK" (London 1930) letters that I think I can see. I would not rate my accuracy of identification at better than 60/40. /vehicle_55054-Bentley-41-2-Litre-FS3606-1930.html -- Last edit: 2018-12-27 12:29:26 |
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◊ 2018-12-27 20:58 |
Agree plate is probably GK, might be 3xx9 (or might not). I couldn't decide if headlights were normal Bentleyish or the Lagonda lollipop-like format on tall sticks. |
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◊ 2018-12-27 21:46 |
Look at thumb 1. The brake drum on the front wheel nearly fills the diameter of the inside of the rim, on the 2 and 3 litre Lagonda the drum is smaller relative to the wheel. The chassis bracing wire and posts of the Bentley are also visible as is the front of the exhaust system. The Lagondas’ exhaust systems are both on the offside. -- Last edit: 2018-12-27 21:49:36 |
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◊ 2018-12-28 10:46 |
A proper car. Please compare and contrast with what can be seen in thumb 1. This is approximately what would have left the works as new, maybe the lights could have varied according to the customer’s wishes. Specialist coachbuilders then provided something to sit on and in. https://www.carthrottle.com/post/nxpbrd5/ -- Last edit: 2018-12-28 10:53:21 |
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