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1927 Overland 10cwt Van

1927 Overland 10cwt Van in Britain's Best Drives, Non-fiction TV, 2009 IMDB Ep. 5

Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin: US — Built in: UK — Made for: GB

1927 Overland 10cwt Van

Pos: 00:16:06 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene 

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dsl SX

2018-05-04 18:30

[Image: 16-08vanb.jpg]

johnfromstaffs EN

2018-05-04 21:36

Willys Overland Whippet?

Gamer DE

2018-05-04 21:40

It is American, I would say, a British car would usually have lower headlights.

nzcarnerd NZ

2018-05-04 23:06

In the US Whippet was a stand alone make within the Willys organisation but what it was known as in the UK I don't know.

This one is obviously a variation of the Whippet Model 96 but I can't find anything on the net about the UK versions.

johnfromstaffs EN

2018-05-04 23:15

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Willys_Overland_Crossley

There is an ad for a vehicle described as an Overland Van at £295, obtainable from Manchester, as a product of the Willys Overland Crossley organisation. Whether it got here as a ckd kit, or if there was local fabrication I know not.

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dsl SX

2018-05-04 23:55

I've got a book reference for (Willys-)Overlands being built in Stockport 1919-31 in a disused plane factory at Heaton Chapel. William Letts of Crossley was apparently a friend of NJ Willys. Made both cars and commercials, usually using CDN-supplied CKD-kits with varying degrees of UK content, and there were some pure UK models using Morris Oxford engines. In late 1920s Overland commercials were sold as Manchester brand. Overland-Crossley stopped Willys assembly in 1931, then built AJS cars until going bust in 1933.

Seems main car models were CKD-import Overland 18hp in early phase, then 1925-26 was 13.9 with lots of Morris-sourced bits, then 1926-30 a wide range of Whippet versions with 4 and 6 cylinders.

nzcarnerd NZ

2018-05-05 03:03

johnfromstaffs wrote https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Willys_Overland_Crossley

There is an ad for a vehicle described as an Overland Van at £295, obtainable from Manchester, as a product of the Willys Overland Crossley organisation. Whether it got here as a ckd kit, or if there was local fabrication I know not.


The 295 pound Overland van is a bit early at 1922, but possibly the one here is a later version?

johnfromstaffs EN

2018-05-05 08:40

There is a second source in Georgano which confirms the Baldwin information. The picture in the Overland entry in the Baldwin book of a two door saloon Overland Whippet matches the front end and wheels of the subject van.



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johnfromstaffs EN

2018-05-05 09:18

Manchester truck.

http://steamwagon.com/manchester.htm

dsl SX

2018-05-05 12:36

Those linked Manchesters seem to be bigger trucks, all with square radiators. Entering as 1926 Overland Whippet Van, US origin and built in UK.

johnfromstaffs EN

2018-05-05 13:52

dsl wrote Those linked Manchesters seem to be bigger trucks, all with square radiators. Entering as 1926 Overland Whippet Van, US origin and built in UK.


Yes, an old friend of mine's Dad ran Manchester trucks in his company before WW2, they were trucks and not car derived lcvs. They then used Fodens and finished with MAN.

I would agree with your suggestion of Overland Whippet Van.

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Sunbar UK

2018-05-06 19:08

1927 Overland 10cwt van

Willys Overland Crossley, Ltd., are marketing a 10-cwt. model which, complete with four-wheel brakes and electric lighting and starting set, sells for £180. The New Overland Box-van on a strengthened Overland Whippet chassis is designed for low first cost and reasonable maintenance outlay.

[Image: overland.jpg]
Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

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