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◊ 2013-10-08 13:53 |
Renegade trim level? |
◊ 2013-10-08 13:55 |
It's a Cherokee. The spare wheel cover is a dead giveaway. We didn't have that kind in the US. |
◊ 2013-10-08 13:55 |
It has foglights on the bumper, so I would say it's an export version - thus, the Cherokee. The (eventual) conversions on imports are usually not that well done. |
◊ 2013-10-08 15:49 |
Year can be listed as 2001 in that case. |
◊ 2013-10-08 16:08 |
2002 or even 2003 was the first year |
◊ 2013-10-08 16:25 |
No, the KJ went on sale in October 2001 in Australia. |
◊ 2013-10-08 16:33 |
Which is 2002 MY |
◊ 2013-10-08 17:19 |
We don't have "MY" here in Australia. It goes according to build year here - if it's built in 2001, it's a 2001 model. Cherokee built Dec 31, 2001 = 2001 Cherokee. Cherokee built January 1, 2002 = 2002 Cherokee. Very simple system. -- Last edit: 2013-10-08 17:23:08 |
◊ 2013-10-09 01:31 |
A very sensible system. However this debate has raged around imcdb pages for many years and will probably rage for many more .... |
◊ 2013-10-09 02:48 |
I don't even see why there is a debate at all. The "MY" system is an arbitrary system. What is the cut-off date for a particular model year? In the USA, it's traditionally been October 1st, but it can also be as early as January 1st! Why apply an American system to other countries? It makes zero sense. |
◊ 2013-10-09 03:09 |
Some people on here tend to see it as after the middle of the year. MY opinion is that we should abide by what a manufacturer says. So if an update comes in and is described as the 2014MY then it should be listed that way on the site. If they see it as a mid-year upgrade (something Rover often did) then it should stay listed as the year of production. If a manufacturer chooses to use production years to signify introductions I'm not going to disagree. It's not just US manufacturers, Jaguar Land Rover often tend to introduce an update early in a year and call it next year's model, as do Volvo. At least it's fairly straightforward when a car has an obvious difference from the previous model years, when people insist that a car is from the next model year because it's registered in September it becomes downright annoying as cars can often lie unsold before finding a buyer and getting registered. -- Last edit: 2013-10-09 03:10:43 |
◊ 2013-10-09 04:22 |
Well, in that case you're going to have to make a lot of changes on this site. For example, every 1984 [XF] Ford Falcon should be listed as 1985, according to your system, as the XF was released late in 1984. |
◊ 2013-10-09 18:14 |
If it is not used at all on Australian models (Ford & Holden) it is not a problem to use the building years (indeed the XF Falcon seems to be listed at other places as 1984 rather than 1985). But for models from US/EU makers which usually use the model years, even if they weren't advertised as such in Australia it is easier to keep the same consistent naming. |
◊ 2014-03-29 06:36 |
Renegade Trim. Australia didn't have the delay in getting the Renegade like Europe did (2003). They got it in 2001 with the rest of the KJs |