Advertising Last completed movie pages 1961 GMC TDH 5301 Comments about this vehicle| Author | Message |
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◊ 2012-12-14 23:37 |
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◊ 2012-12-15 00:50 |
GM "New Look"? |
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◊ 2012-12-15 04:15 |
You bet. The real question is which bus company used it at the time. -- Last edit: 2012-12-15 04:16:23 |
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◊ 2015-02-16 15:30 |
Southern California Rapid Transit District, 1961 GMC TDH5301. |
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◊ 2015-04-29 02:59 |
1959-62 side roof signal, so GM logo (and make?), not GMC. According to Wikipedia, this would mean a Transit bus with a Diesel engine and an Hydraulic (i.e. automatic) transmission for 53 passengers, making it a 40 ft. /12.19 m long x 102"/2.59 m wide bus. |
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◊ 2015-04-30 15:18 |
The emblem in the front says GM, but they were built by the GMC Truck & Coach division on General Motors. 1960 TDH5301 Builders Plate - http://www.kevinsbusrail.com/ets/432/ets_438plate.jpg 1961 TDH5301/TDH5302 sales brochure - http://2670.antiquesnavigator.com/ebay/images/2011/200668628544.jpg And just to repeat, the bus pictured is a 1961, not a 1959. |
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◊ 2015-04-30 16:28 |
Built by GMC, but sold as what? What we use as make is the name under which the vehicles were sold/advertised, not the name of the company who builds them (or else we would need to list some European Mitsubishi as VDL Nedcar, for example  )We have a mix of GM & GMC here on the site for these buses, some day we should decide how to list that properly. -- Last edit: 2015-04-30 16:29:12 |
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◊ 2015-04-30 18:07 |
The emblem changed from "GM Coach" to "GMC Coaches" in 1968, but it was still the same "GMC Truck & Coach Division." Buses aren't heavily branded or marketed. New York City Transit referred to all General Motors buses since 1959 as GMC on this 1972 depot assignment sheet - http://bustalk.info/documents/NYCTA_Roster_3-1-72.pdf |
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◊ 2015-05-01 05:48 |
For now, I just read your assertion without any source nor explanation... Same thing for the TDH5301. By the way, I see... GM as make logo in the brochure and the builders Plate you linked. It wouldn't be the first vehicle in the IMCDb (and in the physical life) to have had different makes during its life: I "worked" with some White-Freightliner / Freightliner trucks these days, for example... @ antp: I think TDH and co should be set as complement, if we want to find all 'New Look' in the same pages. Other way, there will possibly be some contributors using it as reference even if the model is different... -- Last edit: 2015-05-01 06:15:15 |
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◊ 2015-05-01 15:18 |
Los Angeles Metropolitan Transit Authority All Time Roster - 1940-1963: http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/nebuses/rosters/lacmta1.html The bus pictured is #5435. #5400-5479 are 1961 TDH5301s. Cross-checking with the TDH5301 delivery list, serial numbers 2117-2196 are Los Angeles MTA #5400-5479, delivered in March and April 1961: http://omot.org/roster/GMList/tdh5301.html The logo may say GM, but the name of the division is GMC Truck & Coach. On this site, GM appears to be used only for concept vehicles, trucks that can't be identified as either GMC or Chevrolet, and a handful of buses where GM and GMC are used interchangeably. Trucks built by the same GMC Truck & Coach Division in the same era are listed as GMC. I agree that it makes sense to combine these under "New Look" and use the actual model designation as a trim level or extra information, even if it isn't officially a model name. -- Last edit: 2015-05-01 15:19:41 |
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◊ 2015-05-02 01:10 |
+ ⇒ cooperation and sharing are the way I like to work Thanks for these links, they'll be useful the day a "cleaning" in the IMCDb is decided. About the GM / GMC make, I opened a thread in the forum, so we can possibly have several viewpoints: we'll be just 2 or 3 in the debate in this page, it could take time to reach a consensus about one point of view or another .gif ";)") -- Last edit: 2015-05-02 01:11:09 |
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