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1980 Volkswagen Rabbit I [Typ 17] 
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◊ 2007-07-23 00:04 |
For U.S. Is a Volkswagen Rabbit |
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◊ 2007-07-23 20:03 |
It is also an U.S.made car. In the late 70ies VW had for the Rabbit- and Caddy-production an own factory in the U.S. See the light brown dashboard of this car. Like the -in my eyes extreme ugly- light blue dashboard-version, this one was not produced in Europe. Europeans, especially Germans prefer dashboards in black colour. Cars with dashboards in other colour are mainly harder so sell. -- Last edit: 2007-07-23 20:03:31 |
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◊ 2007-07-23 22:24 |
So origine is USA? |
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◊ 2007-07-24 10:31 |
Well, it is a Germany-designed/conceived car, so we listed these as German origin, though that it was not built in Germany. |
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◊ 2007-07-24 10:48 |
But Seats are Spanish, AZULs are Belgian and Paykans are Iranian... Well, you know what I wanted to propose .gif ";)") |
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◊ 2007-07-24 12:03 |
Seat/Vauxhall is a kind of exception. They are considered as Spanish/English because it is a whole brand. Here I think that people considered the Rabbit as a German car despite where it was made. That country thing is quite annoying, maybe we should just have a list of countries rather than dedicated fields, as there can be many for a car: where it was conceived/designed, where it was built, sold on a local market (which may different from the two previous ones), specs or name for a particular country, ... -- Last edit: 2007-07-24 12:08:42 |
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◊ 2007-07-24 12:41 |
I agree (of course ) But I think that four fields would do the job: 1 Origine of the make 2 Origine of the car 3 Made in 4 Made for For this rabbit we only need field 1 (Germany) and 3 (USA) Other examples: Volvo 343: 1 (Sweden), 2 (Holland) Citroën 2CV AZUL with indicators on top of the fron wings: 1 (France), 3 (Belgium), 4 (Switzerland) Seat 600: 1 (Spain), 2 (Italy), 3 (Spain) Hindustan Ambassador: 1 (India), 2 (UK), 3 (India) Barzilian Chevrolet Monza: 1 (USA), 2 (Germany), 3 (Brazil) Peugeot 403 Pakettiauto: 1 (France), 4 (Finland) etc. But mostly we can do with just one field. |
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◊ 2007-07-24 21:50 |
Hmm, if we make differences in the way, DynaMike is suggesting, than we would more discussing about the correct definition, more than about the car itself or the movies. @antp: you've said "Vauxhall". A very difficult brand. The old Vauxhalls until the Kadett D/Astra were totally different cars than the Opel's. Nowadays, at the Astra F and G, you have to check the chassis-no, to know, in which country the car was produced (Germany, England, Belgium or Poland) Back to the Golf I and Rabbit: the US-made Rabbit had so many differences to the European Golf, that you could name it a different model - similar to the actual "Citi Golf" of South Africa. But the Australian made Golf I were nearly identical with the German ones. And what's up with the VW's from Brazil? The most of them have nothing in common with the German made -and developed- VW's. Do you know, that in the late 70ies there was a VW, which was before a Ford - and long years before something from the Rootes-group (I'm not sure, it think it was the "Paykan"-Humber). BMW X 5 and Z 3 are U.S.-made cars. The Porsche Boxter is made in Finland. The VW Polo's (all version, not only the actual one) are a) West German b) East German c) Slovakish d) Spanish e) South African d) Belgish e) Chinese .....and so on. We can continue with the different VW Buses. The polish T4 was same like the German, but the South African T3 (in production until 2002) has not much in common with the "original" T3 (1979-1990), also the Brazilian made T2-Bus (produced until 2003, am I right?) I have friends in Canada, proud Canadiens, who are carefully looking on the differences to U.S.citizens. They took care to buy Canadian made cars, and they put stickers "Made in Canada" on the back. @antp: the Russian Wolga was shortly also an Belgish car. Hmm, you see, this kind of discussion can push us fara far away from the original theme "cars in films" -- Last edit: 2007-07-24 21:51:57 |
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◊ 2007-07-24 21:56 |
A propos chinese cars: In 2003 I've visited a friend in Japan (a crazy VW-freak). We were travelling around with his brand new Polo (Made in Slovakia). Some Audi-fans have seen us and have started a big discussion in a japanese car-enthusiast-internet-forum. They were proud to see "a chinese Polo-prototype on a big road test, driven by a Japanese test-driver, escorted by an German VW-engineer". The reason for their ideas: my friend has -just for joke- bought a "Polo"-logo for the back in chinese letters and put it on his car. That was all .gif ":)") -- Last edit: 2007-07-24 21:57:03 |
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◊ 2007-07-24 22:02 |
I think we should entirely scrap the origin information. It can get too confusing and its not really necessary to have it here because there are many other sources of that information on the internet. Wikipedia for example. If its a toyota, for example, is it really necessary for us to try to determine where it was conceived, designed and made by looking at a picture. We have all we can do just by identifying cars as to year, make and model. Lets leave it at that and not try to be experts on all aspects of car manufacture. -- Last edit: 2007-07-24 22:03:01 |
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◊ 2007-07-24 22:14 |
That would be an appropriate solution, I think. And if anybody wants to point out that there is something special about the origine or production place or that there are special equipments for a specific market, it can be said in the comments... But the way it is until now is not really effectif, at least not in my opinion. |
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◊ 2007-07-24 23:06 |
Ingo >> nice anecdote I am not sure that scrapping that info completely is really good  It is nice to have a country flag, and in some cases the country info can be useful |
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◊ 2007-07-25 22:03 |
I agree that its nice to have a country flag. However, it can be confusing and inaccurate given the multi-country origins of many current autos. For example, most new toyotas sold in american are actually made in america but the parent company is japanese. Recent chryslers were made in america but the parent company was german, what origin would you give to recent chrysler be be consistent with recent american toyotas??? My point is: I don't really mind the country of origin flag but it raises issues that are hard to settle consistently and may be inaccurate. Sorry to be long winded but inaccuracy on this site really bugs me. |
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◊ 2007-07-25 22:47 |
Chrysler is not German. The make is owned by a German group, but it stays American. Like SAAB is Swedish and Lotus is English. |
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◊ 2007-07-26 05:48 |
Well let me ask: what do you mean by origin - where its made, where the owner is, where the company started or what? |
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◊ 2007-07-26 18:05 |
Where the car was conceived/designed. |
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◊ 2007-07-26 18:38 |
Let's take the 'origin' as an 'origin of the make' and everything will be simple, like in the car catalogues. We can make only some exceptions if car really has nothing to do with its make homeland, but actually there are not so many such vehicles. -- Last edit: 2007-07-26 18:40:55 |
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◊ 2007-07-26 23:17 |
OK, I see. We just use the word differently. I was conceived/designed in Maryland but born in Virginia so I think my origin is Virginia.  |
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