Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin:
Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2018-02-08 22:36 |
P544. |
◊ 2018-02-10 01:33 |
If it's a UK plate, MW 999 was a 1927-28 issue, but many rally cars in this film have retro plates with cute combinations. I don't know why a UK PV544 (arrived here Sept 58) would be LHD as Sweden was still RHD at this point. |
◊ 2018-02-10 02:03 |
There was no RHD cars in Sweden even when we had LHT. |
◊ 2018-02-10 12:32 |
There does seem to be a lot of 'good numbers' on the rally cars and I was wondering if this was just because it was 1960 or whether they were private plates . -- Last edit: 2018-02-10 12:32:56 |
◊ 2018-02-10 13:23 |
But most buses and even the trams were RHD, with the passenger doors to the left. They were modified or scrapped Dagen H. For a former discussion on the subject, see /movie.php?id=1004516664 There are other LHD vehicles present, like Rosqvist's PV, Carlsson's 96 (these have Swedish plates) or one ID. @dsl; They made no RHD cars for your market, it seems. Could this be a special rally registration? Maybe a temporary registration, or for foreign vehicles? I remember we had special rules for farm tractors and for rally cars in Norway, they were not allowed on the public roads and wore special number plates. -- Last edit: 2018-02-10 17:16:41 |
◊ 2018-02-10 16:56 |
@tore-40. Thanks for that link. I had it in the back of my mind that UK PV544s were LHD to start, possibly becoming RHD later. Glass's lists PV544 as sold here Oct 58 to Oct 65, becoming just 544 in Aug 61. No mention of LHD or RHD anywhere, including preceding PV444 (Oct 56+), so I ignored the little voice. But as they were all always LHD as your link, they'd be rare beasts here. And I'll tell the little voice that it wasn't quite right for next time. For the plate, in 1960, big rallies (RAC, Monte, Alpine etc) were still gentleman's tours as much as competitive events so had driving tests and concours d'elegance add-ons to the racey bits. So quirky registrations were desirable, along with picnic hampers and whatever else would get bonus points. If anyone needed a short-term plate, RAC (and AA) had access to separately reserved series for foreign/temporary visitors, so would not (re-)use old plates issued way back. |
◊ 2018-02-10 17:32 |
So, just a sticker then? Could be anything, e.g. a tribute to his dad's old number plate |
◊ 2018-02-10 18:25 |
Sticker plates were allowed and fashionable as racier and more streamlined (although a bit incongruous on the brick-like Volvo). They died out in 1970s when reflective plates arrived. It may well be a tribute to his dad's old number plate or whatever, but would have been properly registered. Vehicles could only display one registration. My only doubt here is that I don't see a tax disc, but it might be in the side window. Not sure what that thing in bottom right of windscreen is, but not a tax disc. |
◊ 2018-02-10 19:05 |
So this is a 'random' sticker, while Carlsson's SAAB is an official registration, even a foreign one? (For the brick design, remember that bumblebees shouldn't be able to fly) What about the sticker in the upper part of the windshield? -- Last edit: 2018-02-10 19:09:30 |
◊ 2018-02-11 14:10 |
All drivers would have had to present car registration papers at scrutineering to confirm the car as road legal, production-based, and fully registered - it's part of what makes a rally different from a road race (eg Mille Miglia). Registration in countries of origin eg Carlsson's SAAB perfectly acceptable if the paperwork is provided - if Sweden allowed sticker plates, Erik could use them. Not sure what would happen if sticker plates were not allowed in Sweden, so road legal here but not there. Yes - that's the tax disc up by the mirror. |
◊ 2018-02-11 15:06 |
@dsl; To wrap it all up, I have found several Looks online, you wouldn't happen to know if this edition is available out there? |
◊ 2018-02-11 15:40 |
I can't find it online. A pity because I'd like to watch it as well. This is the only thing I found - http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/youtube/173d503132bc41899bb821cca1fab669 . |
◊ 2018-02-11 20:40 |
Thanks, a short glimpse, at least. With Carlsson cruising calmly through the obstacles where the others spin out... |
◊ 2018-03-08 19:13 |
Driver is Johnny Wallwork keen racing driver and owner of owner of big Volvo dealership. He came 5th overall in his Volvo. So almost certainly a private plate. -- Last edit: 2018-03-08 19:17:41 |