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mok ◊ 2022-11-12 06:55	M/V Xin Fa...... TurboJET......
mok ◊ 2022-11-12 07:00	Hong Kong traffic lights for rjluna......
Jnglmpera ◊ 2022-11-12 12:13	"Get on a Fiat"... Where's the Fiat that we're supposed to get on to?
Baube ◊ 2022-11-12 12:32	late... got a flat... -- Last edit: 2022-11-12 12:34:10
Lateef ◊ 2022-11-12 16:26	You guys... take a Seat.
Gamer ◊ 2022-11-12 16:34	I've always thought that could be their slogan if they came to America.
Baube ◊ 2022-11-12 16:37
Kartkidbut ◊ 2022-11-12 17:38	Fiat or.... Fix It Again, Tony.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2022-11-12 17:44	Surely it's "Fix It Again, Toni." First applied to the FIAT 501, in 1919. -- Last edit: 2022-11-12 17:47:33
electra225 ◊ 2022-11-12 19:47	johnfromstaffs wrote Surely it's "Fix It Again, Toni." First applied to the FIAT 501, in 1919. I have had about one hundred Fiats and my coplaints were about silly points as noise, vibration etc... None have left me on the road, When I had the idea to buy a certain premium german car, after a few years I have spent four months without the car (for fixing everything,.. Automatic transmission, starting system amoung the most inportant I spent more than 6,600 euros in that time but for 7,700 a bought a brand new Fiat Panda in the most misery trim and I am a happy driver. I am sorry that I didn't realize how Fiats good are. Don't forget that another German make in the early sixties, had to copy the mechanics of the Fiat 128 and to ask the help of Giugiaro to save itself... So, pease, don't blame so much Fiat.
rjluna2 ◊ 2022-11-12 20:04
rjluna2 ◊ 2022-11-12 20:05	mok wrote Hong Kong traffic lights for rjluna...... Scheduled to post a comment on 2023-2-28.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2022-11-12 20:25	electra225 wrote I have had about one hundred Fiats and my coplaints were about silly points as noise, vibration etc... None have left me on the road, When I had the idea to buy a certain premium german car, after a few years I have spent four months without the car (for fixing everything,.. Automatic transmission, starting system amoung the most inportant I spent more than 6,600 euros in that time but for 7,700 a bought a brand new Fiat Panda in the most misery trim and I am a happy driver. I am sorry that I didn't realize how Fiats good are. Don't forget that another German make in the early sixties, had to copy the mechanics of the Fiat 128 and to ask the help of Giugiaro to save itself... So, pease, don't blame so much Fiat. I have had a 500 Giardinera, a 128, a Mirafiori, and two Lancia Fulvias. Please don’t assume I know nothing of the habits of Italian cars. I have also had a VW 1200, two Golf Estates, an Audi A4 Avant, and two Mercédès C-class estates. I also know something of the habits of German cars No comments about the French junk I don’t buy any more either. Finally, that post was to explain to someone else that the Fix it again Toni joke was so old that it has automatic inlet valves, no front wheel brakes and a cone clutch. (And I know that’s not a Fiat 501.) -- Last edit: 2022-11-12 20:58:31
electra225 ◊ 2022-11-12 21:19	I recently read a very interesting book written by a very clever British writer: "British Leyland: 1968-1978. Chronicle of a car crash" I recommend you before buying your next German car.
electra225 ◊ 2022-11-12 22:17	Anyway... I am a Fiat entusiast, a Hillman entusiast, a Buick lover, an Opel admirer, a Lincoln entusiast and I love many German, American, British, French and Japanese cars, not forgetting the other countries ones. Therefore I feel a bit sad when a make is derided.
dsl ◊ 2022-11-12 22:44	Early 60s to mid 70s Fiats are some of my favourite cars from when I was a young'un - characterful and inventive designs, some beautiful shapes, they made ordinary things seem exotic. Then mid-70s the rot set in - literally with rubbish steel and metaphorically with dreary boring designs dominated by plastic and pathetic quality control and components, and the magic disappeared. A few attempts to recapture interest such as Ritmo, the first Panda, but too many forgettable blobs (Stilo, Brava/o). Then this century a design revival for some models - newer Pandas, 3rd gen Punto were good cars, and inevitably the revived 500 was huge (if you know what I mean) - but last few years it's all gone flat again - nothing with charisma or desirability. Apart from perhaps the 124 Spider which was a bodge, but I like them, preferably in plain ordinary form rather than the over-marketed Abarth (too much flashy warpaint corrupting a noble name).
RushCars24ID ◊ 2022-11-13 08:35	Nope, nope, NOPE, this is wrong, correction is actually the main page title is in the wrong title, not English, should be the Cantonese one. Cantonese/Hong Kong series -> Wrong title for the main page, not English, main page title should be the localized native title by that country, which is "Haa lau soeng ce zuk". -- Last edit: 2022-11-24 11:54:13
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2022-11-13 08:45	electra225 wrote I recommend you before buying your next German car. Which is why I don’t have a modern Bentley. You should read my posts again, I am not deriding Fiats, merely trying to point out the antiquity of the joke, which is, I believe, of American origin and older (almost) than the seven hills of Rome. You should also know that the two Golf Estates cars did, between them, 204,000 Miles in seven years, plus another 60,000 in the Audi. Then I retired, and my mileage dropped, Merc 1 50,000 miles in six years, Merc 2 13,000 miles in 4 years. -- Last edit: 2022-11-13 16:26:34
electra225 ◊ 2022-11-13 10:32	I have always had BIG (and expensive) problems with Mercedes automatic transmission. Other automatics I had were much less powerful and nice to drive but didn't get problems of any sort. I am just complaining about the difference in reliability between Mercedes cars built in the even recent past and the ones of the last twenty years. Reading again your comment I misunderstand just a bit but my message was something different... I really found that book very interesting since explaining a lot about the success of German cars and the demise of UK first and Italian later ones. Believe me... worth reading and I didn't want to sound crude to anybody. Therefore, if it was so I apologise.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2022-11-13 11:01	No need for apologies, Frank exchanges of differing views brook no apology. Both my c-class 220d cars have had the 9 speed transmission, no problems yet, hopefully. Both cars were bought new and have been treated with care. Since the electric Mercédès are so frighteningly expensive, I am currently looking at a Honda CR-V, but not yet quite sure. -- Last edit: 2022-11-13 11:45:14
electra225 ◊ 2022-11-13 11:23	About Fiats... I recognize they were somehow built withour care (Schludrig in German ?) namely in the 80s and 90s. I can recall a late 1994 Fiat Uno that worked very well, BUT... every single winter at every red traffic light the engine went off anf we had to switch the key again (like automatically in many cars of this era). We changed the fas pump three times. We were so frustrated that my mother bought a 2000 Nissan Micra K11 in the very basic trim that has been possibly the best quality car of our life. It still lives by us anf goes nearly as new. Bought new, never in a garage (and we live in the north of the country). People who bouth the next generations Micra told me they were not the same quality... I would say the the last two Fiat Panda generations have been fantastic cars. I would never say fantastic for a Fiat Regata, a Strada or a 131 Mirafiori...
dhill_cb7 ◊ 2022-11-13 13:52	Did you ever change or clean the IACV? Idle Air Control Valve? Carbon can build up and cause the engine to stall sitting at traffic lights. You should never continously change a part without investigating other options. I always start cheap and work up to expensive. -- Last edit: 2022-11-13 13:52:27
electra225 ◊ 2022-11-13 16:10	dhill_cb7 wrote Did you ever change or clean the IACV? Idle Air Control Valve? Carbon can build up and cause the engine to stall sitting at traffic lights. You should never continously change a part without investigating other options. I always start cheap and work up to expensive. You are right but it was my mum's car and she began to hate the Uno since it caused delays in her activity. Therefore she decided to change it in a moment in which its value was high (small Fiats are expensive udesd cars here in Italy) and to buy the Nissan. As not e mechanic expert I didn't investigate aven though I aws sure what we changed was not the actual cause of the problems and I had to trust Fiat service in some way.
mok ◊ 2022-11-13 16:16	Jnglmpera wrote "Get on a Fiat"... Where's the Fiat that we're supposed to get on to? Add it back...... /vehicle.php?id=1723650......
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2022-11-13 16:25	To return to the Japanese, I had a test drive in a new Honda H-RV this morning, as the C-RV is over £40k and I really don’t need that big a car. I must say it felt a bit flat after my Mercédès. Cars over £40k inc. taxes pay over £500 per year road tax, the H-RV is about £34k. Road tax is much less. -- Last edit: 2022-11-13 16:32:00
AleX_DJ ◊ 2022-11-14 18:14	electra225 wrote I can recall a late 1994 Fiat Uno that worked very well, BUT... every single winter at every red traffic light the engine went off anf we had to switch the key again (like automatically in many cars of this era). My parents had a Fiat Uno 1.0 short after they got married, which had the very same issue And they told me that sometimes the engine didn't respond at all when they switched the key and they had to wait minutes before it started again, remaining stuck in the traffic
RushCars24ID ◊ 2022-11-22 06:45	Jnglmpera wrote "Get on a Fiat"... Where's the Fiat that we're supposed to get on to? mok wrote Add it back...... /vehicle.php?id=1723650...... Nope, wrong, correction is the wrong main title for this main page, it should be the Cantonese one, not English. Please stop inserting the English titles on non-English films/series if the local filmmakers didn't use it or it wasn't collabrated with a main English-speaking country (take this one, for example). Checking your past contributions, mok, you've already inserted the correct localized titles on some foreign films, but now, you've decided to almost retire that. IMDb don't always count to get the original local title. RushCars24ID wrote Cantonese/Hong Kong series -> Wrong title for the main page, not English, main page title should be the localized native title by that country, which is "Haa lau soeng ce zuk". -- Last edit: 2022-11-24 11:55:19

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