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Downton Abbey, TV Series, 2010-?? IMDB

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14stutz US

2011-06-20 01:17

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Were Ford model Ts really that popular in the UK in period...or are they just more common and easier for film companies to rent today?

mauriceoxford UK

2011-09-25 13:40

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Model T's were built in Britain too, and were the biggest seller here until it was overtaken by the 'Bullnose' Morris Cowley in the 1920s. I would imagine that they were very common before WWI so this series is quite accurate, but also their survival rate is doubly impressive as parts are more plentiful given the global sales of Ford compared to home-produced efforts. Hence for filming work, if you want an 'average' pre-WWI light van, the film companies will more than likely produce a Model T!

vilero ES

2011-10-06 20:18

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Me froto los ojos y ¡No puede ser! CCF ¿eres tú?

CarChasesFanatic ES

2011-10-06 20:26

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Sí! Me he animado con alguna serie últimamente! :D

nzcarnerd NZ

2011-10-09 04:30

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Can someone translate the Spanish?

I remember noticing when the first episode played here that even though it was set in 1912, the Ford Ts were all black radiator cars which were not seen before the middle of 1917 in the US and possibly later in UK. Even the brass radiator model seen in thje first pic on this page is a later example - possibly 1916-17 - because it has a metal cowl. The 1912 cars had a flat wooden dash.

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dsl SX

2011-10-09 04:39

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nzcarnerd wrote Can someone translate the Spanish?

Vilero's asking if there are any car chases. CCF says Get real - it's a stupid costume drama.

CarChasesFanatic ES

2011-10-09 11:41

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nzcarnerd wrote Can someone translate the Spanish?

I remember noticing when the first episode played here that even though it was set in 1912, the Ford Ts were all black radiator cars which were not seen before the middle of 1917 in the US and possibly later in UK. Even the brass radiator model seen in thje first pic on this page is a later example - possibly 1916-17 - because it has a metal cowl. The 1912 cars had a flat wooden dash.


He was just surprised to see me here, nothing relevant about the series :) Thanks for the information about the cars though. The second season takes place during 1917.

dsl wrote
Vilero's asking if there are any car chases. CCF says Get real - it's a stupid costume drama.


Hope that was irony :p


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G-MANN UK

2011-10-09 20:51

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dsl wrote Vilero's asking if there are any car chases. CCF says Get real - it's a stupid costume drama.


CCF used to ask that question all the time :D

nzcarnerd NZ

2011-10-09 21:09

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The second series starts here next week so hopefully I will get a better look at those unknowns from there. Of those two ambulances the one on the left is a Ford T but the other one is something heavier and on solid tyres. The green truck in the background does not look right to be a T - it might be something else.

Re mauriceoxford's comment he is partly right in that there were many Ts in England pre WW1 - it is just that they were all brass radiator models as the painted radiator did not appear until 1917 - and they would have been vastly outnumbered by local and European products because British production did not start until 1911-12. It wasn't until the 1920s that there were large numbers of Ts but their reign was shortlived. The horsepower tax (introduced in 192?) killed them. They were the only vehicle that was rated for tax at a higher rate than what they actually produced - 22hp for tax and 20hp actual. Compare that with the Austin 7 - 7 taxable and about 13 produced.

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antp BE

2011-10-10 16:16

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CarChasesFanatic wrote
Hope that was irony :p

It is dsl! As I said on /vehicle.php?id=126095#Comment996682 :
antp wrote
He does only three things on the site anyway: identifying cars, off-topic with Ingo, and jokes.

And for dsl's post: :lol:

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dsl SX

2011-10-10 21:11

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antp wrote ..... and jokes.

Oh well, if you insist. When he was a young boy, Bob Dylan was very shy and had no pals to play with, so he made friends with the insects in his garden, and they liked him too. He used to sit there in the sunshine and they'd all hover round him. He always treasured those moments and it inspired him to write his first song "The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind."

chicomarx BE

2011-10-11 02:39

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Abominable!! One more and I'll press the "ban this user" button.

john from Staffs EN

2011-10-30 21:40

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The horsepower tax was introduced in 1921, and was calculated using the formula B x B x N divided by 1613, where B was the bore of the cylinders in millimetres, or 2.5 where the bore was expressed in inches and N was the number of cylinders. The result was then used to arrive at the annual charge for a road fund license for the car, at £1 per horsepower.

http://www.britishmm.co.uk/facts002.asp

Hence the British prediliction for cars of small bore and long stroke, and the reason for the general use of four cylinders for family cars, except Jowetts.

john from Staffs EN

2011-10-31 12:46

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In response to the question concerning the number of Ford Model T vehicles to be seen in Downton Abbey, 41% of all registered vehicles on Britain's roads in 1919 were Fords. Between 1919 and 1921 Ford Britain produced 33,600 cars, Morris in the same period produced 5,280. Morris did not overtake the Model T in production figures until 1924, so a predominance of Fords, including the one owned by my Uncle Sam at the time, is representative. The number of private cars on the roads in Britain in 1919 was 109,705, this had increased to 482356 by 1924, thus the predominance of Fords became diluted.

(A-Z of Cars of the 1920s, Nick Baldwin, Bay View Books 1994, ISBN 1 870979 53 2)

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Sunbar UK

2011-11-08 20:41

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@CarChasesFanatic as series 2 has now ended, are you adding any screen caps of 'LD3218' (a 1908 Napier 45hp Type 23) from episode 2.07?

CarChasesFanatic ES

2011-11-12 02:33

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Yes, done :)

14stutz US

2012-02-20 17:49

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john from Staffs wrote In response to the question concerning the number of Ford Model T vehicles to be seen in Downton Abbey, 41% of all registered vehicles on Britain's roads in 1919 were Fords. Between 1919 and 1921 Ford Britain produced 33,600 cars, Morris in the same period produced 5,280. Morris did not overtake the Model T in production figures until 1924,)


Thanks for your reply. I knew that Ford made Ts in the UK, but it's interesting to see how strong sales were in the early day.

nuthatch US

2012-08-01 07:34

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It's disappointing that although the producer and set-dressers on this series were quite scrupulous about period accuracy, they missed the boat so badly with some of the period automobiles. The second season ends in 1920, yet we see a 1925 Sunbeam and numerous Model T Fords that hadn't been built yet. It certainly can't be that there are not enough brass era cars available for films. I wonder why they were so careless about this.

rootbeer1 US

2013-01-28 23:30

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The Fiat Tipo is same era as a 1912 Fiat Tipo runabout that sold January 2013, at Barrett Jackson's Scottsdale Arizona auction for $198,000. The A.C.
is manufactured by the company that in the early 1960's exported cars to USA to Carroll Shelby's facility where Ford V8's were installed and sold as
AC Cobras. A year or 2 later Carroll Shelby got really wild, dropping in monster 427 cubic inch V8's with over 400 horsepower! Pristine Shelby Cobras
have sold for hundreds of thousands, rarest one(s) for in the millions, and are the most replicated(copied) car in the world, available from numerous
manufacturers as kit cars and also as ready to drive versions. They are raced, primarily now in vintage/gentleman races. The Laguna Seca track near
Monterey, CA has annual races where Shelby's are present.

nzcarnerd NZ

2014-01-17 09:33

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The difference re Fiats is that the Tipo 1 has an engine of 1.8 litres and the car sold at the 2013 BJ auction is a US-built Model 55 of 9.4 litres.

Saltchuck CA

2014-07-07 05:35

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Saltchuck CA

2014-07-07 05:37

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Season Four #4

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