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Weasel1984 PL

2012-01-13 00:18

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carobserver MX

2012-01-13 15:55

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IRANIAN MOVIE, SO INTERESTING WHEN IS RELATED WITH CARS :whistle:

Andre Malraux RO

2012-01-13 16:04

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When CIA support le coup d'etat against Pahlavi, they practicly destroyed the country. Exactly the same thing they did in Chile in 1973 and in many other countries.

Weasel1984 PL

2012-01-13 16:28

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They have excellent cinematography and make films, as good as European were in the past (looooong, long time ago). Like for now, I didn't like only one from these, which I was able to see - /movie_209463-Bad-ma-ra-khahad-bord.html

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Gag Halfrunt UK

2012-01-13 18:55

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Andre Malraux wrote When CIA support le coup d'etat against Pahlavi...

Don't you mean Mossadegh? Pahlavi was the Shah.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-01-13 21:24

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I know, not Mossadegh, Pahlavi. After Pahlavi was deposed, religious fanaticism, led by Khomeini, gripped the country.

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chicomarx BE

2012-01-14 23:48

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So Mossadegh, not Pahlavi. ;) Indeed a democratically elected leader overthrown by the CIA, but at the request of the British.

Something they haven't forgotten: "Our enemies, especially America , Britain and the Zionist regime (Israel)"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/14/us-iran-idUSTRE80D0NI20120114

Andre Malraux RO

2012-01-15 01:02

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chicomarx wrote So Mossadegh, not Pahlavi.


I speak of the overthrow of Pahlavi in 1979 and instauration of the regime of religious fanaticism and terror led by Khomeini. The so called "revolution" which overthrow Pahlavi (a man who tryed to civilise his country) was a disaster secretly supported by CIA.

chicomarx BE

2012-01-15 01:14

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Well no, Pahlavi was forced out by his own people, he was America's puppet, so unlikely that was supported by the CIA. The real "coup d'etat" was against Mossadeq in 1953, in another conflict over oil, which started it all.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-01-15 01:46

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chicomarx wrote Well no, Pahlavi was forced out by his own people, he was America's puppet, so unlikely that was supported by the CIA.


Perhaps I was wrong in this regard, but it's sure Pahlavi's overthrow and Khomeini's came to power was a disaster. I respect Pahlavi for what he did in his country, even he maked errors too. USA did not support him, because they thought he is unpopular in Iran and because he became to independent for their taste. It was a huge mistake. I don't care if Pahlavi was forced out by his own people. People may be wrong. Especially when they reject civilisation for embracing religious fanaticism and intolerance.

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chicomarx BE

2012-01-15 02:08

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Pahlavi was basically installed by America after taking out Mossadecq, that's why Iranians hated him.

The same way Saddam Hussein was an American ally against Iran that had become unresponsive. The terrorist attacks of 9/11 proved a great opportunity to finally overthrow him...

Khomenei was certainly a disaster but extremism in the Middle East is more a response to this kind of meddling and foreign control, not to reject civilisation.

Ford_Guy US

2012-01-15 09:21

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It's not that the US did not support Pahlavi, we always considered him one of our most, if not the most, faithful ally in the region at the time. But when the revolution came and his domestic support faltered, Carter and his administration found themselves in a no-win situation. The revolution and his overthrow was in no way supported by the US or the CIA. Pahlavi had many strong traits, but one of his biggest faults was the excess of his rule and lifestyle.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-01-15 11:58

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chicomarx wrote Pahlavi was basically installed by America after taking out Mossadecq, that's why Iranians hated him.


Pahlavi was from a dynasty established by National Assembly of Persia (ancient name of Iran) in 1925, so it was his right to rule: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlavi_dynasty . He succeeded his father in 1941, he was overthrown in 1952 and came back to power in 1953.

chicomarx wrote Khomenei was certainly a disaster but extremism in the Middle East is more a response to this kind of meddling and foreign control, not to reject civilisation.


Maybe, but you have to be very primtive in your thought to think you fight with foreign powers control by instauring a regime who terrorise your own country, who stone to death unfaithful women, deny any right of women (who are no better than animals in islamic "culture"), cut the hand of the thieves etc.

The Shah was a man who tryed to abolish this mentalities. In an interview, he said: "If my people want to live in the dark ages, I can do nothing.".

By the way, I don't think we can compare Pahlavi with Saddam Hussein.


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Gag Halfrunt UK

2012-01-15 12:02

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Since you're so knowledgable about Iranian history, you surely remember that numerous different groups, both Islamist and not, were involved in the uprising against the Shah. Once the Shah was out of the way, Khomenei and his supporters outmanoeuvred the others.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-01-15 12:14

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Wikipedia about Khomeini:

He was perceived by many Iranians as the spiritual, if not political, leader of revolt. As protest grew so did his profile and importance. Although thousands of kilometers away from Iran in Paris, Khomeini set the course of the revolution, urging Iranians not to compromise and ordering work stoppages against the regime. During the last few months of his exile, Khomeini received a constant stream of reporters, supporters, and notables, eager to hear the spiritual leader of the revolution.

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