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The Worlds Greatest Rally Cars, Documentary, 2000

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  • Rallye 30 ans de légende (France)

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Rinspeed FR

2006-08-02 23:13

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J'ai privilégié les images archives tirées de course plutot que les musées ou autres. La suite bientôt!

antp BE

2006-08-02 23:25

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Des Audi Quattro :love:

Pour le titre, ça ne serait pas "World's" au lieu de "Worlds"?

Explorer4x4

2006-08-02 23:29

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The Ford RS200 :love:

Surprised there are this many Fords (7, 5 different models).

Exiv96 BE

2006-08-02 23:43

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Probably because it's a british documentary. :D I guess an italian documentary would focus on the Lancia Stratos & Delta and the Fiat 131, while a french one would feature the Alpine A110, Peugeot 205 Turbo16 & 206 WRC...

Donington UK

2006-08-02 23:44

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I'm guessing Subaru, Lancia, Mini Cooper, Evo, Celica etc were also there?

Exiv96 BE

2006-08-02 23:45

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Let's hope so. :)

Explorer4x4

2006-08-02 23:47

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But Ford is American. I was surprised there were no Subarus. When I think of rally cars, I think of Ford Focus' and Subarus.

antp BE

2006-08-02 23:49

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Focus and Impreza are really recent compared to all these cars :p (like you, you are too young for all these old cars :D)
Edit : but of course maybe they will just be added later to the page...

Main Ford make is American, but there were UK, German and French Ford divisions, and each one produced their own cars. So some Ford cars are UK cars, though Ford is a US make...

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Donington UK

2006-08-02 23:50

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I'm guessing this isn't the entire list, that may take a while to upload (The Subaru must be in that list, as Richard Burns won the championship in one, as did Colin Mcrae, and this is a British documentary!)

BeanBandit FI

2006-08-02 23:54

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I'm missing the Nissan 240RS http://images12.fotki.com/v239/photos/1/105162/2831012/051105140-vi.jpg
and Toyota Celica Twincam Turbo Link to "www.geocities.com"

Not the fastest, but, being large coupes with angular lines they looked great.

antp BE

2006-08-02 23:56

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I like angular cars like that :)

Explorer4x4

2006-08-03 00:08

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antp wrote Focus and Impreza are really recent compared to all these cars :p (like you, you are too young for all these old cars :D)
Edit : but of course maybe they will just be added later to the page...

Main Ford make is American, but there were UK, German and French Ford divisions, and each one produced their own cars. So some Ford cars are UK cars, though Ford is a US make...


Ya, I really only understand cars from 1988 to date, this means not the DS :p .

antp BE

2006-08-03 00:10

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Which was a major rally car by the way :whistle:
But it will probably not be listed here, as the French title mention "30 years of legend" only...

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Explorer4x4

2006-08-03 00:12

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The DS was a rally car? Was it as "major" as the Ford Focus, Ford RS200, Subaru Impreza or Audi Quattro?

Alexander DE

2006-08-03 00:14

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There are quite a few other interesting rallye cars. Not such hand-made monsters like we see today, but ordinary cars:

Jaguar Mk.VII
Citoën ID
Saab 92
Panhard PL17

All Rallye Monte Carlo:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rallye_Monte_Carlo
Link to "najette1968.free.fr"


Other interesting races:
East African Safari Rally
London-Sydney Marathon Rallye
Rallye Paris-Dakar
Rallye Berlin-Breslau


And probably the strangest of them all:
The Plymouth-Banjul Challenge

for which the rules are:

1 Competing cars must cost less than £100.
2 Maximum budget for the vehicle Rally Preparation: £15
3 Once the Rally is underway, there will be no form of formal assistance from the organisers in any way - Teams are ON THEIR OWN.
4 All of vehicles that make the full distance to Banjul must be handed over to the Challenge Control Group to be auctioned under controlled conditions (reported to The Gambian Government) in aid of local Gambian Charities.
5 All vehicles must be LEFT-HAND DRIVE!!

The above rule is necessary because The Gambia is a left-hand-drive country. RHD vehicles are not really welcome in The Gambia. The enormous popularity of this event has meant that we have had to introduce this ruling in order to ensure that the Challenge continues to receive the warm welcome extended by the Government and People of The Gamabia.
RHD cars may not be permitted entry to The Gambia or may be subject to import duties and disposal charges. THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE NOW!!!

"Rules are made to be broken ..." - Julian Nowill
"(Except Rules 4 and 5)"

:D

sixcyl FR

2006-08-03 00:19

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list can be extend to many cars, but there are some major Rallye cars missing right now (I believe the list is not enterily uploaded )
Austin Mini
Alpine A110
Lancia Stratos
Lancia Delta HF
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16
etc...

antp BE

2006-08-03 00:19

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Explorer4x4 wrote The DS was a rally car? Was it as "major" as the Ford Focus, Ford RS200, Subaru Impreza or Audi Quattro?

I do not know if it was more or less famous than these ones (why do you always want to compare the DS to other cars?), but it was famous in rallyes, that's sure. And more than the Focus, sure too :D (I do not remember that the Focus was/is so famous, currently the first places are rather taken by Citroën Xsara...)
(note: Citroën ID = DS, it is just a cheaper version)
http://www.citroen.mb.ca/cItROeNet/sport/ds-rally-cars-01.html

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Donington UK

2006-08-03 00:30

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Did the focus ever even win a championship? i seem to remember it always being either subaru or peugeout, now its citroen....

sixcyl FR

2006-08-03 01:04

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Donington wrote Did the focus ever even win a championship? i seem to remember it always being either subaru or peugeout, now its citroen....

I don't think so? but I'm not a specialist of rallyes... It would be nice to have the "palmares" of World Rally Championship since it exists... does some one knows?

wickey SK

2006-08-03 01:05

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what about Porsche 911??

sixcyl FR

2006-08-03 01:11

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sixcyl wrote
I don't think so? but I'm not a specialist of rallyes... It would be nice to have the "palmares" of World Rally Championship since it exists... does some one knows?


I found that on wikipedia, but they start in 1973... probably FIA WRC didn't exist before?
Link to "fr.wikipedia.org"

Rinspeed FR

2006-08-03 07:04

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Ne vous inquietez pas, il y'en aura d'autres bientôt, une peu de tout: Lancia, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Renault, Peugeot etc

Rinspeed FR

2006-08-03 07:09

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et pour le titre il est bien marqués worlds

Bebert FR

2006-08-03 08:21

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Rinspeed wrote Ne vous inquietez pas, il y'en aura d'autres bientôt, une peu de tout: Lancia, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Renault, Peugeot etc

Et p'têtre une ou deux Triumph? :sun:

jplemoine FR

2006-08-03 10:14

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Pour revenir à la DS, certains pilotes préféraient l'ID seulement à cause de la simplification du circuit hydropneumatique et de la boîte manuelle, plus classique. Pour le reste, la base technique étant la même, elle offrait les mêmes pôssibilités de développement (moteur passsé de 70 chevaux, plus ou moins, à 150 au minimum. Plus les avantages de la Traction et de cette suspension "magique" sur les spéciales enneigées du Monte-carlo.

Cela dit, je préfère la DS en pilotage, à cause de la boîte semi-auto: beaucoup plus facile de placer l'auto en entrée de virage! (appel-contre-appel: on plante un "léger" freinage de trappeur au pied gaughe, tout en dosant l'accélérateur au pied droit, et on déclenche alors la glisse de l'arrière, idéale pour le placement du tank)

sixcyl FR

2006-08-03 12:04

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jplemoine wrote Cela dit, je préfère la DS en pilotage, à cause de la boîte semi-auto: beaucoup plus facile de placer l'auto en entrée de virage! (appel-contre-appel: on plante un "léger" freinage de trappeur au pied gaughe, tout en dosant l'accélérateur au pied droit, et on déclenche alors la glisse de l'arrière, idéale pour le placement du tank)


Dis donc t'as fait le rallye de Corse? ;)

jplemoine FR

2006-08-03 12:16

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sixcyl wrote

Dis donc t'as fait le rallye de Corse? ;)

Ben non, chuis pas suicidaire. Mais avec un pote, il y a quelques années, on se faisait des préparations sur base DS (ou ID, selon ce qu'on déterrait) pour les aligner en Stock-car. (je précise, avant de faire hurler les puristes, que, en général, si on trouvait une coque restaurable, elle était sauvée!). Donc, à partir de ruines dont personne ne voulait. Surtout qu'il y a quinze ans, il fallait presque donner du pognon avec une DS pour que l'acheteur la prennne.

Et le gars en question avait, lui, pas mal couru sur ces bêtes-là... ce qui fait qu'on allait les "tester" sur des petits chemins paumés, nos bateaux à roulettes!

Rinspeed FR

2006-08-03 14:17

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oui Bebert une ou 2 triumph, y'en a.

sixcyl FR

2006-08-03 14:24

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Rinspeed wrote oui Bebert une ou 2 triumph, y'en a.

..tu peux faire ta sieste tranquille Bébert, dans la sérenité d'une attente fructueuse et bénéfique ..[Image: fleur.gif]

hiergehts CH

2006-08-03 20:00

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I'm suprised the Opel Ascona 400 and Manta 400 from the early 1980's aren't listed as both (especially the Manta) won a good number of rallies before being overtaken by the Audi Quattro and Lancia 037 : http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/1279748024/

Bebert FR

2006-08-06 00:47

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Je ne suis pas sûr qu'il faille classer les Triumph en voiture de course. Ce ne sont que des voitures d'usine dont le moteur a été un peu prépéré/gonflé. ;)

antp BE

2006-08-06 00:48

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Je pense aussi. Pour moi "course" ce sont les F1 et autres voitures construites sur mesure pour la course (comme certaines auto du Dakar). Celles qui sont modifiées à partir d'autos de séries pouraient rester dans leur catégorie d'origine. Bien que, ce soit sujet à discussion... la nuit va être longue :D

Bebert FR

2006-08-06 00:59

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Sans moi! IL est trop tard et mes vieux yeux ont besoin de se reposer! :D

Bebert FR

2006-08-06 10:09

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Comme personne n'a réagi pendant la nuit, je change la classification des quatre Triumph. :D

jplemoine FR

2006-08-06 10:20

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Fais toi plaisir... Moi, une Triumph, si elle a plus de trois roues...

stronghold EN

2006-08-19 16:18

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I noticed a few cars missing ..so I've been through my DVD a got a few pics ..+ added some extras.

landrover1 AR

2006-08-19 21:30

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do someone know wher i can download wrc videos?
i like to see the view inside and specially how fast they go

DIEHARD NL

2006-08-19 23:02

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Alexander wrote There are quite a few other interesting rallye cars. Not such hand-made monsters like we see today, but ordinary cars:

Jaguar Mk.VII
Citoën ID
Saab 92
Panhard PL17


True, there are quite a few cars missing, which should be in this movie in my opinion. What about the Citroën ZX Rally raid, The Misubishi Pajero, which where very succesfull in Paris - Dakar and other Desert rallies. Also the Xsara WRC should be in this...

stronghold EN

2006-08-20 01:11

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DIEHARD wrote
True, there are quite a few cars missing, which should be in this movie in my opinion. What about the Citroën ZX Rally raid, The Misubishi Pajero, which where very succesfull in Paris - Dakar and other Desert rallies. Also the Xsara WRC should be in this...

..I think the cars you mentioned are too New (this was originally released on video 1999-2000...and the newest car they show is the Peugeot 206 WRC.
..For other rally cars ...Keep watching this coming week ... as I have a few films lined up.! ;)

DIEHARD NL

2006-08-20 01:26

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stronghold wrote
..I think the cars you mentioned are too New (this was originally released on video 1999-2000...and the newest car they show is the Peugeot 206 WRC.
..For other rally cars ...Keep watching this coming week ... as I have a few films lined up.! ;)


Well, that would explain the Xsara, however the Pajero and the ZX where succesfull between 1988 - end nineties, so the they could have been included...

stronghold EN

2006-08-20 01:56

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DIEHARD wrote Well, that would explain the Xsara, however the Pajero and the ZX where succesfull between 1988 - end nineties, so the they could have been included...

..Yes ..you are right.! ..No mention of them though.! (..I remember the ZX rally cars ..but don't recall Pajero's as being well known ..in Europe at the time.? ..I think this is why it's not been included) ..I know it says 'Worlds greatest rally cars' ...but I think the producers are all from Europe.! :)

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DIEHARD NL

2006-08-20 10:23

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stronghold wrote
..Yes ..you are right.! ..No mention of them though.! (..I remember the ZX rally cars ..but don't recall Pajero's as being well known ..in Europe at the time.? ..I think this is why it's not been included) ..I know it says 'Worlds greatest rally cars' ...but I think the producers are all from Europe.! :)


Well, they Pajero had most of it fame in Paris - Dakar, like the ZX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakar_Rally#List_of_winners

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leolito BG

2006-08-21 13:00

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Moreover Pajero's have been winning in various Toute-Terrain races all over Europe.

sevel CL

2008-11-14 06:29

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I miss Peugeot 504

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