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Chicago, Short Movie, 1945

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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 02:18

A short movie about the city by the Chicago Board of Education, originally released between mid-'45 and mid-'46.

Can be seen at vimeo.com/88065833.

skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 02:18

It's a short subject but it's also a documentary. Perhaps the type should be the latter?

skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 03:49

Miscellaneous traffic on Lake Shore Drive
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 03:51

Miscellaneous traffic outside the Chicago Public Library
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 03:52

Miscellaneous traffic on Michigan Blvd.
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 03:54

Miscellaneous parked cars outside the University of Chicago Medical Center
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 03:55

Miscellaneous shopping district traffic
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 03:56

Miscellaneous traffic on Randolph Street
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 03:59

Miscellaneous parked cars in residential districts
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 04:02

Miscellaneous parked cars outside a church
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 04:06

Chicago Municipal Airport (name changed to Midway in '49)
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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-25 04:09

The mail order giants Sears & Montgomery Ward
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mike962 DE

2014-03-25 21:51

is this "doc" about cars ?? should we keep it ?

rjluna2 US

2014-03-25 21:56

Nice, Skywatcher68 :) That was before my time.

Gamer DE

2014-03-25 22:03

mike962 wrote is this "doc" about cars ?? should we keep it ?

Yes, because it has some very old and nice cars. :)

Lateef NO

2014-03-25 22:32

mike962 wrote is this "doc" about cars ?? should we keep it ?

I don't even... Old documentaries like these are kept on the site, despite not being about cars [:kiki]

karoomay SY

2014-03-25 22:33

Some of the cars with a 2 star role look like background cars just passing by.

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2014-03-25 22:35

Yes.
Actually all of them seem to be 1-star.
Is there an explanation?

(I am not against having it listed)

karoomay SY

2014-03-25 22:42

I don't really have anything against this being listed either, given the time period, but Lateef does raise a good point since the admins lately have restricted rules on adding documentaries and limiting background cars.

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2014-03-25 22:51

I think Lateef means the opposite. I think he agrees with it being kept.

mike962 DE

2014-03-26 00:24

but haven't we already have ENOUGH old docs like this which aren't about cars ? then it just starts to get repeats and repeats of same car pool and image quality if of course often very poor due to age

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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-26 00:38

mike962 wrote is this "doc" about cars ??


Sort of. It has some great driving scenes on Lake Shore Drive but is largely about the city of Chicago.

skywatcher68 US

2014-03-26 00:50

karoomay wrote Some of the cars with a 2 star role look like background cars just passing by.


Other than the lumber equipment, all [*][*] vehicles are either from the Lake Shore Drive scenes or other scenes in which the audience's perspective is as if they're on the road themselves. I figured that vehicles essentially interacting with the audience warranted being bumped up from background due to the usual star rules being difficult to apply to a documentary.

Pretty much everything which would be deemed "too background" is on this page.

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Lateef NO

2014-03-26 15:26

kegare wrote I think Lateef means the opposite. I think he agrees with it being kept.

That is correct.

G-MANN UK

2014-03-26 15:33

Personally I'd probably vote no to this.

Lateef NO

2014-03-26 15:42

mike962 wrote but haven't we already have ENOUGH old docs like this which aren't about cars ?

That's like saying "don't we have ENOUGH old movies that aren't about cars ?" It was decided more than four years ago that documentaries older than 30 years or having footage of that vintage, should be treated the same way as movies in terms of having them listed. And what do you mean "enough"? Is that limit something you have defined?
mike962 wrote then it just starts to get repeats and repeats of same car pool and image quality if of course often very poor due to age

The day recurring footage becomes a large-scale problem, it can be taken into consideration. This footage seems unique to other site content. And you should know that certain users like seeing cars of these car pools, despite the fact that many models are recurring. And it should not be taken as obvious that the picture quality is very poor just because of the age. It all depends on the source. Personally, I can't be bothered with the picture quality unless I know there exists a version superior to mine in terms of quality.

antp BE

2014-03-26 17:31

Lateef wrote
That's like saying "don't we have ENOUGH old movies that aren't about cars ?"

No, the site is about cars in movies. Documentaries are just an extra and so are not especially justified on the site, even if indeed the old ones are more easily accepted and the rule about traffic cars is relaxed.
I guess this one is acceptable, but there will be duplicate cars to merge/regroup once identified.

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antp BE

2014-03-26 17:39

Skywatcher68 wrote I figured that vehicles essentially interacting with the audience warranted being bumped up from background due to the usual star rules being difficult to apply to a documentary.

:??:
No, if the car is just seen passing it should be listed as 1-star.
There are many documentary where cars have role (when involved in the doc), so if the cars here have no role they should stay as 1-star even if more visible than others. These should be changed then.

karoomay SY

2014-03-26 18:59

[Image: duh.gif] Way to go me on completely misunderstanding Lateef's comment.

skywatcher68 US

2014-03-26 19:52

antp wrote
:??:
No, if the car is just seen passing it should be listed as 1-star.


Okay then. :)

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skywatcher68 US

2014-03-26 20:13

Skywatcher68 wrote Miscellaneous traffic on Michigan Blvd.
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Are those a pair of Yellow Coach Z-BHs? I submitted a somewhat closer view but I guess it was still too background.

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Lateef NO

2014-03-27 09:37

antp wrote No, the site is about cars in movies. Documentaries are just an extra and so are not especially justified on the site

So, let me get this straight: TV-series, mini-series and animated series are also extras? As in, everything not being a movie, by definition are considered extras? In fact, movie is per etymological definition short for "moving images", which would apply to documentaries as well. I would rather think that this pivot is related to fiction versus reality?

antp BE

2014-03-27 16:52

Movie in this context is the fictional thing with a story, actors, etc. Here we made the equivalent of what movie sites list as actors, but with cars.
By extension we also included series, bikes and background cars.
And then also documentaries, but not any one, and not all cars in these either.

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sixcyl FR

2014-04-06 15:35

Aircraft at:
http://www.impdb.org/index.php?title=Chicago_(1945)

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